Saints Director of Rugby Phil Dowson: ‘My Bank Job Was a Real Challenge’

This English town is hardly the most glamorous spot globally, but its squad delivers an abundance of excitement and passion.

In a town known for boot‑making, you would think boot work to be the Saints’ primary strategy. Yet under the director of rugby Phil Dowson, the team in their distinctive colors opt to keep ball in hand.

Although playing for a quintessentially English community, they exhibit a style associated with the best Gallic exponents of expansive play.

Since Dowson and his colleague Sam Vesty took over in 2022, the Saints have won the English top flight and gone deep in the continental tournament – beaten by their Gallic opponents in last season’s final and knocked out by the Irish province in a last-four clash before that.

They lead the competition ladder after a series of victories and one tie and travel to Ashton Gate on Saturday as the just one without a loss, chasing a first win at their opponent's ground since 2021.

It would be expected to think Dowson, who played 262 premier matches for various teams altogether, always planned to be a trainer.

“When I played, I didn't really think about it,” he remarks. “However as you mature, you realise how much you appreciate the sport, and what the normal employment is like. I spent some time at a banking firm doing a trial period. You do the commute a few times, and it was tough – you see what you do and don’t have.”

Discussions with former mentors resulted in a role at the Saints. Fast-forward several seasons and Dowson manages a roster increasingly packed with national team players: Tommy Freeman, Fraser Dingwall, Alex Mitchell and Alex Coles lined up for the national side facing the New Zealand two weeks ago.

An emerging talent also had a profound impact off the bench in the national team's flawless campaign while the fly-half, in time, will assume the pivotal position.

Is the emergence of this exceptional group attributable to the club's environment, or is it luck?

“This is a mix of each,” comments Dowson. “I would acknowledge the former director of rugby, who gave them opportunities, and we had some tough days. But the experience they had as a group is definitely one of the causes they are so tight and so talented.”

Dowson also namechecks his predecessor, a former boss at Franklin’s Gardens, as a major influence. “I was lucky to be mentored by exceptionally insightful individuals,” he says. “He had a major effect on my career, my management style, how I interact with people.”

Northampton execute entertaining the game, which was clearly evident in the instance of Anthony Belleau. The Gallic player was involved with the Clermont XV overcome in the Champions Cup in April when Freeman scored a three tries. He admired the style to such an extent to go against the flow of UK players joining Top 14 sides.

“A mate phoned me and stated: ‘We know of a fly-half from France who’s seeking a team,’” Dowson recalls. “My response was: ‘We don’t have funds for a imported playmaker. Another target will have to wait.’
‘He wants a fresh start, for the chance to prove his worth,’ my friend told me. That interested me. We spoke to Belleau and his communication was incredible, he was eloquent, he had a witty personality.
“We questioned: ‘What do you want from this?’ He said to be guided, to be driven, to be in a new environment and outside the Top 14. I was like: ‘Welcome aboard, you’re a legend of a man.’ And he turned out to be. We’re lucky to have him.”

Dowson states the emerging Pollock offers a specific enthusiasm. Has he encountered a player similar? “No,” Dowson answers. “Each person is original but he is unusual and remarkable in multiple respects. He’s not afraid to be authentic.”

The player's spectacular touchdown against Leinster in the past campaign showcased his unusual ability, but various his demonstrative during matches antics have resulted in accusations of cockiness.

“On occasion seems overconfident in his actions, but he’s not,” Dowson says. “Plus he's being serious constantly. Tactically he has input – he’s not a clown. I believe on occasion it’s shown that he’s merely a joker. But he’s intelligent and great to have within the team.”

Hardly any coaches would claim to have having a bromance with a assistant, but that is how Dowson describes his relationship with Vesty.

“Sam and I possess an interest about different things,” he explains. “We maintain a reading group. He wants to see all aspects, seeks to understand all there is, aims to encounter varied activities, and I believe I’m the same.
“We converse on numerous topics outside rugby: movies, literature, concepts, culture. When we faced the Parisian club in the past season, the landmark was undergoing restoration, so we had a brief exploration.”

One more fixture in Gall is approaching: The Saints' return with the English competition will be short-lived because the Champions Cup kicks in soon. The French side, in the vicinity of the mountain range, are the opening fixture on matchday before the South African team arrive at the following weekend.

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